Chatty Captains?
This report describes a passenger's positive reaction to a Captain’s inflight announcements and how they added to the travel experience.
There is an alternate point of view, however. Now that most aircraft are equipped with inflight entertainment systems, PA interruptions are not always appreciated unless there's something really spectacular going on like a view of the Grand Canyon, or the left wing on fire! Business passengers don't like PA chatter if they are trying to work and often some passengers may be sleeping.
The article immediately reminded me of two extremes of PA style I saw in my early days at GooseAir riding sidesaddle - that is as a B727 Second Officer*.
Captain Gabba-Lou would pick up the PA microphone immediately after takeoff from San Francisco (I’m serious) to describe the view of the city and the bay area. He'd hardly stop talking all the way home. Of course one or two passengers loved the rolling commentary and let him know with great enthusiasm at the end of the trip. Meanwhile the flight attendants and other passengers were rolling their eyes in quiet frustration.
The story goes that one night a concerned second officer, wanting to protect the sleep and sanity of the passengers, surreptitiously reached behind his panel on the back wall and quietly pulled out the PA circuit breaker, disabling the flight deck microphone. When Lou realized he wasn't transmitting the SO made a big show of checking the breaker - “Standy while I recycle it…” And then he reset some adjacent non-critical CB. “Is that any better now? Nope? Well gee, guess that's not the problem then …” Miraculously the system started working again at the top of descent! “Go figure! Technology…”
At the other end of the spectrum was Silent Bill who had very little to say to the passengers - ever. One day just after reaching cruise altitude also departing San Francisco the purser brought up a note addressed specifically to The Captain. One of the passengers was requesting specific PA announcements about the scenic highlights along the way and even suggested geographical trivia Bill should include regarding the various mountain peaks and lakes. Bill's response, growled emphatically over his shoulder was: "What the (bleeeep) does he think I'm running here? A Brewster bus tour?" We burst out laughing as Bill shoved the note to the first officer grumbling something about "Take care of this, will ya…" and then returned to his own preoccupations with the passing scenery.
When my day came to make Captainly PA announcements I tried to find the happy medium between these two fine gentlemen. I’d try to discern the type of passengers we had on board - different for a weekend trip to Punta Cuna as opposed to the Monday morning business flights to Toronto. As well I'd consider the time of day or specifically check with the flight attendants to know if the folks were asleep.
I’d be interested in any comments readers have about PA announcements when you fly as passengers. Do you like them? Find them annoying? What about during irregular operations - do you want more frequent announcements?
“I now invite you to sit back, relax and enjoy the internet. Thanks for visiting The Wings Stayed On.”
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*note: The Second Officer is the third pilot on the flight deck who takes care of technical systems and circuit breaker panels etc. The chair swivels sideways while working on the technical panel - so it is often referred to as riding side-saddle. The S/O is also often called the "Oiler." One captain was famous for introducing the second officer as "My sexual adviser because when I want his (bleeeeping) advice, I'll ask for it!" Apparently, not all captains adjusted easily to the third crewmember and having some controls beyond their own reach. Pilots dreamt up many ephitats for the second officer job as it was a non-flying purgatory we had to endure enroute to the front seat jobs. While many airlines used apprentice pilots in this non-flying position, many others employed flight engineers. The advantage of this option was having an actual mechanic on hand at off-line stations to deal with maintenance issues.

13 comments:
Wasn't there a security directive recently for US airlines to stop making announcements that referenced the scenery? I think it's somethinb about thwarting would-be terrorists from figuring out exactly where the flight is (though for many reasons that's a bit silly).
Regardless, here in Australia there seem to be only exactly two announcements from the flight deck in a typical flight - one during climb and one at top of descent. The first announcement might mention the overall route the flight is going to take, but there is never any follow-up during the cruise. Most pilots barely say the minimum required, which seems to be the estimated flight time, weather at destination, etc. Having moved here from the US, I do miss the occassional announcement about scenic highlights, but I can understand that the pilots have plenty else to do.
I think the funniest PA I've heard about was about 2 hours into a 4 hour flight the captain said "halfway." That was it for the entire flight.
I've posted a slight edit regarding the Second Officer's role on the flight deck.
@Jeremy - I haven't heard of this (yet) but I can imagine it being raised at security meetings. The last time I rode in the cabin, the entertainment system still tracked the aircraft's actual position on a progress map, as do online Flight Tracker websites - so I don't think this has been routinely implemented. Anyone who knows otherwise please jump in.
@ATC Happenings - good one! I've always wanted to use that classic comedy line from the Carol Burnett show: "Ladies and gentlemen, there is no cause for alarm." Followed by the click of the mic going off - no further messages... diabolical!
I don't find the version I'm thinking of, as played by Lyle Wagener, Tim Conway, and Carol Burnett - but here's a Monty Python version
I enjoy the kind of happy medium you try to achieve. I like to be alerted to scenery worth seeing, and I truly appreciate the captain's calming words during turbulence and in advance of turbulence. I think it reminds me that the captain is present and we are all in his hands. Also in this age of computers absorbing everyone's attention, a little human connection is nice.
United, IMO, has this figured out. You can tune in to channel 9 on the inflight system and the flight deck can give extended information for the folks who are listening without interrupting everyone else.
While I like being able to listen to the ATC stuff on channel 9 on most flights, I only wish more of the folks in the pointy end would use this hack to talk about what we're flying over.
But I got my revenge, got my PPL last year. So today we flew over Yellowstone and Mt. Rushmore and I told my one passenger all about it. What was she going to do, jump?
@mamax2 - I agree about the human contact point. I do like to know there are human beings in the pointy end when I fly as passenger.
@rw2 - interesting way United has to make the chit chat optional. I like that. Congratulations on the Licence btw!
I don't mind knowing about major cities passing to "aircraft right" (or left) But I would think that non stop commentary would be irritating especially on a longer flight. I also agree that the passenger load and time of day would play into it. Unfortunately most of my flying time is spent in regional aircraft versus the larger mainline, so we don't get the seat back entertainment option...
Aaron
I also like the "middle ground", especially when they've figured out how to pause the inflight entertainment system during PA's. Last week on a cross US flight though it was VERY disturbing since the PA was about 3x the decibels of the entertainment system. All the passengers were dreading the next announcement.
Captain,
I too prefer the middle ground, however during IROPS I'd prefer to be informed as much as possible.
During a recent trip to SNU we experienced significant delays in YYC due to a weight and balance and fueling issue. The Captain took the time to come out to the cabin and informed the passengers on the cabin PA three times with updates on the problem, as well as an additional three updates from the flight deck. Human interaction between the flight deck and passengers when there is something abnormal going on is key.
However, if it is during a night flight and 7/8ths of the passengers are asleep and the other 1/8th are watching a movie, don't interrupt unless the left wing is falling off!
My 2 cents.
YYC Dispatcher
I'm not one for chit chat for sure, but the odd interesting landmark comment is sometimes nice.
But, two beefs.... what's up with the Altitude announcements? This is of absolutely no relevance to the average passenger.
...and, what;s up with the "sit back and relax and enjoy the flight"??? have you been back here, pilots??? It isn't exactly the height of luxury anymore!
I like being told when we're going over the Rockies.
But @Anonymous -- I do NOT want to be woken up if the wing has fallen off. Just let me sleep my way to my doom. ;-)
@whywhyzed - re: what's up with the Altitude announcements?
Perhaps it's a holdover from the days when airline flying was an exciting adventure and there was novelty to being "35,000 feet in the air!" ... Or it's just a habit? For pilots, a position is normally three dimensional.
...and, what;s up with the "sit back and relax and enjoy the flight"???
uh yeah... maybe that's also a hold-over from the "good ole days?" But what could the Captain say? "Hold on folks - just three more hours of leg-cramping misery until we reach your destination. Thanks for flying "Honest Abe Airlines."
I'm interested in what the captain has to say ... I'd love to hear every word that is breathed through the headsets. Better still, perhaps the FO could wear a headcam! hahah
"People travel to wonder at the height of the mountains, at the huge waves of the seas, at the long course of the rivers, at the vast compass of the ocean, at the circular motion of the stars, and yet they pass by themselves without wondering."
~St. Augustine "
We seem to be too busy or too jaded to wonder. When the guys up front see something wonderful, I appreciate the heads up!
Happy flying Captain.
~DeAnn
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